Defence Team News Interview with Major Raymond Green and Jared Giesbrecht on the Counter Uncrewed Aerial Systems - IDEaS Sandbox

Video / October 12, 2022


Jared Giesbrecht: Earlier today, we were able to capture video of a bullet hitting a drone at 70,000 frames per second, and it makes for very interesting video and so that was a really great part of the Sandbox.

Genevieve Germano: Innovators from across Canada and around the world have been testing their tech in Suffield, Alberta, to detect and defeat drones, also known as Counter Uncrewed Aerial Systems. Today we're speaking with Major Raymond Green and Jared Giesbrecht, to learn more about the Innovation for Defence Excellence and Security, or IDEaS, Sandbox event.

Jared Giesbrecht: With the development of drones over the last few years, the nature of warfare is changing. And so, drones present a threat that is very different from traditional threats in terms of detection, identification, and defeating them, that's very different from things that we've seen in the past. So this is a challenge area and a growth area for the Canadian Forces. And so we're looking to inform them on how best they can address this changing world. The job of the Sandbox is to generate information to be shared between various interested parties. And so that's what we're doing, is just generating knowledge. And we're also trying to trying to spark conversations between industry, between the Canadian Forces, between our scientific staff, on how we can better develop and use these technologies.

Major Raymond Green: The Sandbox is important simply for the fact that if we want to be able to understand new technologies that are available to us, with Defence Research Development Canada, in the sandboxes that they provide, it helps the CAF to learn faster, be more ready for new technologies as the industry is starting to develop it. Essentially, I'm looking for the advancements of these technologies. It's been a few years since, really, you saw the advance of Counter Use Technologies. So you know, there has been a previous Sandbox done in 2019, and based on the information that we have on those systems, looking at the new systems today, to see how much more they have become integrated. Obviously size, form, and factor is a huge piece. With the changes in the technology, it makes it much easier for the operator to operate with, and that's a key thing for us to be able to use it on the battlefield.

Jared Giesbrecht: There's two primary benefits that we generate for innovators that come here. One is the Sandbox environment, and the ability to use their technologies that they might not be able to deploy in other places, or test in other places. We provide a challenging red team for them, drone pilots, adversaries for them to work against, and this is something they don't always have access to. The second part of that is also their access to the military client. To provide feedback to the companies, the innovators, on where their technologies could be better, how they could package them better, how they could make them more useful for the Canadian Forces.

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