Appendix D: Minutes from Stakeholder Consultation Sessions Held During February and March, 2000

This appendix documents the input received from various potential stakeholders regarding the proposed non-hazardous waste (NHW) regulations. As described herein, this input was solicited over the course of several consultation sessions held in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. Prior to the meetings, participants were provided with some brief background documentation as well as an agenda. As the meetings were intended to both provide information and encourage discussion on behalf of participants, the discussions did not always follow the agenda.

Each of the sessions consisted of a formal presentation followed by open discussion. The formal presentation generally commenced with the identification of the purpose of the undertaking and pending (this) Discussion Paper, as well as the drivers for this initiative. As noted at that time, these drivers include policy/regulatory commitments (e.g. Basel Convention). Further, the desire to manage wastes at home was recognized. In the event that wastes are to be exported for disposal, such quantities were to be minimized through waste reduction programs and assurance should be forthcoming such that any waste ultimately sent for disposal will be handled in an environmentally responsible manner. Environment Canada's long stated policy to maintain open borders while imposing controls on the movement of waste was further mentioned.

The next stage of presentation consisted of an outline of the regulatory and policy background to this undertaking. This included discussions related to the Basel Convention, the Canada-U.S. Agreement, as well as OECD actions concerning transboundary movements. Also discussed were the Export and Import of Hazardous Wastes Regulations and recent amendments to the Canadian Environment Protection Act (CEPA).

Subsequent areas of presentation touched on background studies and reports (e.g. Ontario export studies and the previous pilot voluntary notification program) as well as current waste quantities exported or imported for disposal. Previously formulated macro-level options regarding transboundary movements were then reviewed (e.g., regulatory monitoring, economic measures, bans and restrictions).

The formal presentation also touched on the next steps in this process (i.e. submission of Discussion Paper, consultations by Environment Canada, publication of draft regulations, etc.).

As outlined in the following pages, input was then received on a variety of issue-specific areas as related to the proposed regulations (e.g., definition of 'prescribed' wastes and waste 'disposal', prior informed consent (PIC) and tracking/manifest requirements, etc.). Session participants included representation from private industry, provincial ministries, municipal government and non-governmental organizations (NGOs). As might be expected from such a diverse group, some of the input received is occasionally contradictory.

During the discussions, most comments received were in relation to non-hazardous wastes. On some occasions, however, reference was also made to hazardous wastes. This was partly because the concepts of "non-hazardous waste" and "final disposal" were not felt to necessarily mirror concepts and definitions currently found in provincial or state legislation from which such wastes originate or are sent to.

Following each session, participants were provided with an electronic copy of their session's minutes. In the event that the assembled minutes did not accurately represent the presented viewpoints, recipients were encouraged to notify the study team.

The following consolidated minutes outline the results from three consultation sessions held in Toronto in February, 2000 as listed below:

Session participants are identified in the stakeholder contact list in Appendix B. For the Toronto sessions, facilitators were: Grace Howland (Environment Canada); Doug Thomson (McCarthy Tetrault); and, Jonathan Read and Ted Taylor (SNC-Lavalin).

Definition of Prescribed Wastes
NGOs
Municipalities and Private Industry
Prior Informed Consent
NGOs
Provinces
Municipalities and Private Industry
Tracking and Manifest Issues
NGOs
Provinces
Municipalities and Private Industry
Waste Reduction Plans
NGOs
Provinces
Municipalities and Private Industry
Definition of Waste Disposal
NGOs
Municipalities and Private Industry
NGOs
Provinces
Municipalities and Private Industry

The following minutes outline the results from two consultation sessions held in Montreal in February, 2000 as listed below:

Session participants are identified in the stakeholder contact list in Appendix B. For the Montreal sessions, the facilitators were: Charles Cormier (Environment Canada); Katia Opalka (McCarthy Tetrault); and, Luc Massicotte (SNC-Lavalin).

Morning Meeting with Industry Stakeholders
Definition of Prescribed Wastes
Definition of Waste Disposal
Prior Informed Consent
Tracking and Manifest Issues
Waste Reduction Plans
Other Issues
Afternoon Meeting with Environmental Groups and MENV
Definition of Prescribed Wastes
Definition of Waste Disposal
Prior Informed Consent
Tracking and Manifest Issues
Waste Reduction Plans
Other Issues

The following consolidated minutes outline the results from a consultation session held in Vancouver on March 10, 2000, beginning at 9:45 am. Session participants included representation from non-governmental organizations (NGOs), British Columbia Ministry of Environment, Lands & Parks, local regional districts, and private sector waste management firms.

Session participants are identified in the stakeholder contact list in Appendix B. For the Vancouver session, the facilitators were: Doug Thomson (McCarthy Tetrault); and, Jonathan Read (SNC-Lavalin).

Definition of Prescribed Wastes
Definition of Waste Disposal
Prior Informed Consent
Tracking and Manifest Issues
Waste Reduction Plans
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Consultation meeting date: February 18th, 2000

The Ontario Waste Management Association (OWMA) represents 319 member companies and individuals involved in the waste services industry in Ontario. OWMA has been an active stakeholder in the development and implementation of waste management regulatory initiatives at all levels of government - federal, provincial and municipal. While OWMA membership have diverse business interests in areas such as landfills, transfer stations, material recycling facilities and hazardous waste; the majority of member companies are waste material 'haulers'. OWMA members facilitate the movement of waste both within Ontario and to various US states. Our members handle over 80% of the solid waste in Ontario and 95% of the solid waste moving across the US border.

OWMA has a very significant interest in any initiative to regulate the transboundary movement of solid waste between Canada and the Untied States.

The OWMA has had the opportunity to review the background documentation related to the current study commissioned by Environment Canada and has received formal presentations from SNC Lavalin, McCarthy Tetrault and Environment Canada representatives. A select group of OWMA member company representatives as well as the OWMA Executive Director attended the stakeholders discussions convened in Toronto on February 18th, 2000.

The following issues and/or queries were the subject of discussion at the stakeholders meeting and are of concern to OWMA.

The Context of International Obligations:

The rationale for the current exercise to consider regulatory options for the export and import of solid waste between Canada and the US is claimed to be embodied in the Basel Convention of which Canada is a signatory and the US is not. While the Basel Convention is primarily directed at hazardous waste movements, it does include reference to 'other wastes' - presumably non-hazardous solid waste. Similarly the US - Canada Agreement on the Transboundary Movement of Hazardous Waste has been amended to include non-hazardous waste destined for final disposal. The Canadian Environmental Protection Act (CEPA), 1988 has allowed Canada to move towards a regulatory framework.

While the OWMA recognizes Canada's role in the world community and the need to meet international obligations, it is also important to recognize the evolution of regulatory frameworks from hazardous waste into the realm of 'other wastes'. It is important to recognize that the impetus for the international actions were based on the serious environmental and health risks associated with the uncontrolled disposal by developed countries of large volumes of hazardous waste in developing countries. These recipient countries had little or no environmental controls or safeguards and were disadvantaged by the economic pressure to receive such wastes. In these circumstances it was more than reasonable that the international community took action. The international philosophy, Conventions and Agreements are now being applied to a totally different situation. The transboundary movement of solid waste in North America is between two sophisticated and highly environmentally regulated and safeguarded nations. The regulatory framework for waste management in each nation is at least equivalent and in some cases superior in the US, meaning that waste movements are not occurring to circumvent environmental controls. As such the need to regulate exports and imports between Canada and the US in any manner should be considered. We respectfully suggest that the need for such regulation does not exist despite Canada's perceived need to meet international obligations. We suggest that Environment Canada thoroughly investigate the existing waste management regulatory framework at both the provincial and state levels before concluding what, if any shortcomings really exist in terms of meeting the intent and commitments associated with the Basel Agreement and CEPA.

If a regulatory approach is adopted it must be minimal in terms of additional government red tape and the 'layering' of government jurisdiction and control. Any changes should be implemented in a manner that they enhance rather than simply add to or duplicate existing requirements. Regulations must not restrict trade and commerce nor be an economic burden to the industry and economy.

Fundamentally, it is our belief that the current regulatory systems that exist on both sides of the US-Canada border provide adequate environmental protection and minimal risk to human health, and with some very minor enhancements will meet the intent of the Basel Agreement and CEPA.

Definitions:

The term 'waste' also requires clear definition to distinguish between waste for disposal and materials for recycling or reuse. The economics of recycling must be incorporated into the definition to reflect the fact that a 'waste' today is a recyclable material tomorrow because of changes in market conditions.

Both the Basel Convention and the Canada - US Agreement refer to 'other waste' but the definition appears to be different in each document. The respective definitions of 'household waste' and 'municipal waste' are ambiguous and require clarification in terms of any proposed regulation. It is extremely difficult to classify waste according to 'origin'. The definition of 'other waste' as 'household waste' in the Basel Convention appears to be expanding under CEPA with no apparent rationale. These definitions will create difficulties for Ontario facilities that process and dispose of 'mixed' household and IC&I wastes and accentuate waste definition anomalies between Ontario and US states.

A clear definition of 'final disposal' is also required to assist in clarifying waste versus recyclable materials. It has been suggested that the regulation must address situations in which material exported under the guise of being recycled is intended for disposal. While this is recognized as an issue in the most blatant circumstances, any attempt to find a regulatory solution must not interfere with the legitimate export and import of waste and recyclable materials. The definition issues mentioned previously accentuate the difficulty of a regulatory approach.

Prior Consent Principle:

The need for a regulatory system requiring the receiving jurisdiction to provide prior informed consent for waste export and the perceived inadequacy of the current provincial and state regulatory systems with respect to this issue is understood to be a key concern.

It is important to recognize that in the early 1990's, RCRA Subtitle D was promulgated in the United States, bringing into effect perhaps the most stringent municipal solid waste landfill design and operating standards anywhere in the world. States including Ohio, Michigan and New York responded by developing their own regulatory programs that had to meet these minimum Federal standards. Many states went and remain beyond the Federal regulatory requirements.

The landfill permitting system in the US is at least as stringent as that in Ontario, and each landfill permit has restrictions placed upon it based on the outcome of extensive pre-approval investigations that include environmental review and public consultation. If a US disposal facility is permitted under a state or federal regulatory program to accept waste from another state or Canada, then in our view this constitutes prior approval. Therefore we suggest that Environment Canada assemble a roster of all disposal facilities permitted to accept solid non-hazardous waste from Canada, indicating tonnage or other relevant restrictions if applicable. Environment Canada should then provide a blanket prior consent for waste disposal at any of the facilities listed. This roster should be updated and communicated as changes occur or annually at a minimum.

Information specifying exact ports of entry should not be required because of the flexibility in disposal site utilization required for the reasons indicated previously.

OWMA does not support any requirements for the advance prediction and notification of potential annual tonnage. The attempt to control waste exports on the basis of volume not environmental criteria, is an unreasonable restriction of trade. Advanced predictions of tonnage will be unreliable and misleading. Many companies anticipating securing the same disposal contract will include the same volumes in their individual estimates thereby creating a vastly overstated export potential. Such a requirement could also allow a company to vastly overestimate waste exports with the intent of 'tying up' approved export tonnage. It is conceivable that the receiving jurisdiction may be tempted to refuse additional 'real' imports on the basis of large tonnage estimate increases early in a year.

Tonnage is controlled at the receiving disposal site by permit restrictions both by volume, type of waste and by origin (service area).

It would be more meaningful to require actual export tonnage to be reported at the end of each approval period. This would result in accurate real tonnage statistics and would eliminate any potential for abuse that is inherent in an advance prediction requirement.

The concept of 'flow control' has been judicially rejected in most US jurisdictions as anti-trade.

Waste Reduction Plans:

The requirement for waste reduction plans is not supported by OWMA as an effective program is already in place under provincial jurisdiction. Additional layering of reduction requirements at the federal level will be counter-productive. The requirement of waste reduction plans is discretionary for the Minister and Environment Canada should invoke the concept of equivalency in respect to the Ontario waste reduction program. Difficulties exist in respect to the definition of 'exporter'. Any successful program would need to be focussed on generators not exporters.

The following issues / comments were raised by waste industry representatives and discussed at the stakeholder meeting.

A fundamental problem with Environment Canada's position and initiative is that it does not understand the landfill permitting and waste management regulatory processes in the US, and therefore does not know if or where the 'gaps' truly exist in order to meet the Basel Agreement and CEPA commitments. SNC Lavalin should undertake a 'gap analysis' between the US and provincial regulatory systems using the specific requirements of the Basel Agreement and CEPA as the guideline. Then they will understand what if any disparities need to be addressed and the most efficient existing regulatory instruments to utilize so that 'red tape' and regulatory 'layering' is avoided.

March 13, 2000

E-Mail Received From: Helen Spiegelman, Society Promoting Environmental Conservation
Received on: March 11, 2000

Dear fellow stakeholders in the waste export consultation. I found yesterday's meeting (in Vancouver) very interesting. Here's what I observed in our multi-stakeholder encounter:

Or to put it another way:

As an avid fan, I want the regulators to do their job so the players don't take unfair advantage of each other or tear up the playing field so no one can play (ecological collapse is bad for business). But I don't want the referees to interfere so much that it affects the play and the game's no fun.

Regulators feel that the safest way to ensure good behaviour is to cover every detail with a procedure. Businesses feel exasperated that unnecessary bureaucratic procedures waste time/money. What we can't seem to find is balance:

It was interesting to watch the stand-off several times yesterday. Regulators saying 'what kind of rules do you want?' and haulers saying 'less rules'.

It was depressing to think that after two years of meetings in fancy boardrooms (at public expense), we could end up with another set of rules that will be seen by the industry as a challenge to get around -- or, failing that, as an unnecessary expense that will drive up costs unproductively.

Here's a thought I tried to put on the table yesterday, but I don't know if the facilitators noted it on their flipchart. Unlike bureaucracies, businesses operate in the international marketplace. This positions them well to design streamlined measures to ensure the necessary flow of information to make regulations that are efficient as well as effective.

Why can't the haulers design a cost-efficient regulatory scheme that they thought was economically efficient and show it to the regulators - and challenge them to find reasons it wouldn't meet the need for environmental effectiveness. Turn the process on its head.

This approach brings to mind another kind of balance: balance between trust and vigilance.

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